"TOR" <temple_of_reason@yahoo.co.uk>
2005-05-27 11:51:08 UTC
OPEN LETTER TO THE MISGUIDED
As your original message was posted
talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.religion.deism
I also do so merely adding the alt.deism newsgroup
As I wish to respond not so much for what you state but for what other have
stated in response to you and in particular responses you received in the
Deist groups. The word "god" is merely that just as also "man" and "reality"
is just as is every word you use to describe everything thing in the
universe for which you and others can show respect or not. In reality after
all the volumes of words written printed published "reality" is what we call
"real" (duh?), and as such in my present state "I am I am" if you agree and
like it or not, or weither you can explain matters or not.
It was said "I have great respect for agnostics, and *** consider the
position the
most logical on the God question" but it is not "the god question" but the
matter actually is a question of god, just as we can formulate it as a
question of science, or a question of myth.
In this age there has developed with the common universal availability of
books, education, instant messaging, email, websites and microwave
communications to other planets the basic components of those communications
amongst many has often become taken for granted.
In your terminology there is much for which there has been much which has
developed you have no reverence nor respect especially your own terminology
and usage.
You say "Deism is in many respects similar to pantheism. My problem with
traditional Deism and pantheism is that it believes in a supernatural,"
BUT where is your authoritative work as an academic that provides a basis
for such conclusions? you refer to "traditional Deism" (we can presume that
this includes the distinctively different English, American, and French
schools of deism) Oh what a fool you are!!
I too "see nothing supernatural even being possible", and where you further
state "Most of the Cosmos has yet to be explored;it is amazing how little we
know" you disrespectfully mix terminology and make many inconclusive
inferences of conjecture. But admittedly you know little of that also.
Arrogantly you disrespectfully condescend in your views by stating "the
average person fails to understand how much we do know." Perhaps they
actually do understand? I dare say in fact they know better than the likes
of you, and so without more left as a basis you attack in the manner of
RABID DOGS and dysfunctional families ALL.
Repeatedly your speech and thoughts like that of biblical fundamentalists
depends the other sources the bible translation of their choice (as you rely
of the thoughts of others) in uncreative thoughts you are preoccupied as
your speech is dependent solely on what others say by your saying:
"I think there is something more to what pantheists than call the UNITY than
merely an unconscious machine."
For as mostly you proceed based on a mish mash of others' terminology drawn
from the primitive recesses of the past by which standard we can dig into
your life of record (if you ever had one) to show the many inconsistencies,
lies, injustices and travesties you perpetuated and arrogantly cover-up.
Who cares really what you think? You are a illegitimate bastard as well as
you brag in your stating how you became
egotistically claim success proclaim
thinks believes or says?
YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD SO IT MUST BE YOUR ENVIRONMENT OF INDOCTRINATION
When easily you can be challenged as there is no consistency to you, your
terminology, your wordings, definitions and one can easily doubt you much
more so than Deism, Pantheism, Science, God, or the likes of you as you are
generally an unqualified, unlettered, unfettered and merely in poor taste.
Perhaps a LaVey Bible would be more to your liking and agreement as they
accept people like you also complete with any of the pseudo sciences you may
wish.
--
EVERYTHING CAN NOT BE ABSTRACT
FOR THEN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ABSTRACTION!
~A~
TEMPLE OF REASON (Deist)
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603
http://zito.biz http://templeofreason.org https://www.zito.biz/ssl
http://uk.geocities.com/andrew_zito
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/temple_of_reason
universally copyrighted 2005 Temple of Reason
As your original message was posted
talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.religion.deism
I also do so merely adding the alt.deism newsgroup
As I wish to respond not so much for what you state but for what other have
stated in response to you and in particular responses you received in the
Deist groups. The word "god" is merely that just as also "man" and "reality"
is just as is every word you use to describe everything thing in the
universe for which you and others can show respect or not. In reality after
all the volumes of words written printed published "reality" is what we call
"real" (duh?), and as such in my present state "I am I am" if you agree and
like it or not, or weither you can explain matters or not.
It was said "I have great respect for agnostics, and *** consider the
position the
most logical on the God question" but it is not "the god question" but the
matter actually is a question of god, just as we can formulate it as a
question of science, or a question of myth.
In this age there has developed with the common universal availability of
books, education, instant messaging, email, websites and microwave
communications to other planets the basic components of those communications
amongst many has often become taken for granted.
In your terminology there is much for which there has been much which has
developed you have no reverence nor respect especially your own terminology
and usage.
You say "Deism is in many respects similar to pantheism. My problem with
traditional Deism and pantheism is that it believes in a supernatural,"
BUT where is your authoritative work as an academic that provides a basis
for such conclusions? you refer to "traditional Deism" (we can presume that
this includes the distinctively different English, American, and French
schools of deism) Oh what a fool you are!!
I too "see nothing supernatural even being possible", and where you further
state "Most of the Cosmos has yet to be explored;it is amazing how little we
know" you disrespectfully mix terminology and make many inconclusive
inferences of conjecture. But admittedly you know little of that also.
Arrogantly you disrespectfully condescend in your views by stating "the
average person fails to understand how much we do know." Perhaps they
actually do understand? I dare say in fact they know better than the likes
of you, and so without more left as a basis you attack in the manner of
RABID DOGS and dysfunctional families ALL.
Repeatedly your speech and thoughts like that of biblical fundamentalists
depends the other sources the bible translation of their choice (as you rely
of the thoughts of others) in uncreative thoughts you are preoccupied as
your speech is dependent solely on what others say by your saying:
"I think there is something more to what pantheists than call the UNITY than
merely an unconscious machine."
For as mostly you proceed based on a mish mash of others' terminology drawn
from the primitive recesses of the past by which standard we can dig into
your life of record (if you ever had one) to show the many inconsistencies,
lies, injustices and travesties you perpetuated and arrogantly cover-up.
Who cares really what you think? You are a illegitimate bastard as well as
you brag in your stating how you became
a ULC minister. I took the title because so many Christians
are brainwashed into not questioning their reverends.
not for any good reason but merely one out of spite and dishonesty that youare brainwashed into not questioning their reverends.
egotistically claim success proclaim
By Arguing with me they were undermining their own conditioning ---
I can proudly state
that a number of funnies eventually not only left Christian
Fundamentalism but Christianity itself.
I [you] consider myself [yourself] a pantheist
rather than a deist.
Who elected or made you a papal authority of what every Deist or PantheistI can proudly state
that a number of funnies eventually not only left Christian
Fundamentalism but Christianity itself.
I [you] consider myself [yourself] a pantheist
rather than a deist.
thinks believes or says?
But Deism is a good step for someone trying to
break away from traditional religion.
WHEN THERE IS NOT SUCH PROVISION EXCEPT IN YOUR MINDbreak away from traditional religion.
It is not easy to overcome a lifetime of indoctrination
BUT WHERE THE HECK DO YOU GET THOSE IDIOT THOUGHTS FROM GOD?YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD SO IT MUST BE YOUR ENVIRONMENT OF INDOCTRINATION
When easily you can be challenged as there is no consistency to you, your
terminology, your wordings, definitions and one can easily doubt you much
more so than Deism, Pantheism, Science, God, or the likes of you as you are
generally an unqualified, unlettered, unfettered and merely in poor taste.
Perhaps a LaVey Bible would be more to your liking and agreement as they
accept people like you also complete with any of the pseudo sciences you may
wish.
--
EVERYTHING CAN NOT BE ABSTRACT
FOR THEN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ABSTRACTION!
~A~
TEMPLE OF REASON (Deist)
P.O.Box 1615
Altoona, Pa 16603
http://zito.biz http://templeofreason.org https://www.zito.biz/ssl
http://uk.geocities.com/andrew_zito
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/temple_of_reason
universally copyrighted 2005 Temple of Reason